The Rat Race Escape is Real – Josh Miller | 401

The Rat Race Escape is Real – Josh Miller | 401

Rat Race Escape

It’s Financial Freedom Friday! The rat race escape is real, and Josh Miller is here to prove it. Learn how he applied Matt’s teachings and became so successful at real estate investing that he could no longer afford to stay at his engineering job. Plus, find out how to meet and learn from Matt and his students (like Josh) face to face.

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What You Will Learn About The Rat Race Escape and Josh Miller:

  • How to meet and learn from Matt face to face
  • How an Epic Intensive attendee became so successful that he couldn’t afford to stay at his 9-5 job
  • What a good week looks like for Josh (in terms of $$$)
  • How Josh went from occasional deals to 1-2 per week
  • How Josh delegates the boring parts of real estate investing

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Speaker 1: This is Theriault Media.

Matt Theriault: Hey, Matt Theriault here at Epic Real Estate. Welcome to another episode of Financial Freedom Friday.

Speaker 1: It’s time for Financial Freedom Friday with Matt Theriault.

Matt: So, it’s Friday. It’s Financial Freedom Friday, and I am not here right now in the office. No, I’m actually at our Epic intensive. We have an Epic intensive going on right now in Indianapolis, Indiana. It’s a three day event, a three day workshop where we get together belly-to-belly, shoulder-to-shoulder, side-to-side, working on people’s rat race escape plans and creating this plan and step-by-step process for them to implement and escape.

That’s what we’re doing right now. Sorry you couldn’t be there for this one, but maybe the next one. Next one’s coming up in Boston on October 18th, 19th and 20th. The first time on the east coast that we will be there taking the whole team, so if you can make that one maybe that’s going to be more convenient for you. Love to see you there, love to have you. If you go to right now, those seats are free at this very moment, at the time of the release of this video. So, I don’t know when you are actually watching this. Maybe you’re watching this a year later, and if that’s the case, still go to because this is an event we do three, four times a year every year. We’ve been doing it for a while. Everyone that goes, they have a good time. I’m pretty sure if escaping the rat race is a plan of yours or an aspiration of yours, you’re going to have a good time as well.

Today, I wanted to introduce you to somebody that came to an Epic intensive about a year ago, Josh. He’s turned out to be a good friend of mine, a really good guy. He came and saw what was available for him. He decided he wanted to work … We wanted to work together and in less than a year, he was doing one to two real estate transactions on the side, while he was holding down his full-time job. This is his corporate job of more than 10 years. This is what he went to school for, this is what he was committed and invested in. He was flipping some houses on the side, and after a few sessions that we had together he was up to two to three deals a week. So much so it got to the point where he couldn’t afford to keep his job anymore, so he bounced. He quit. He is a full-time real estate investing entrepreneur. He was at our last intensive, shared his story, and I thought I’d just play you a clip from the last intensive so you can see what’s available for people that come to the Epic intensive and decide to take action and take control of their finances. Here, watch this.

Josh: I’ve been doing this just a few months and I’m going to share what’s working for me, but I don’t know anything. I got to Matt for everything. With that said, I feel a lot more comfortable just [crosstalk 00:02:52]-

Matt: Okay, good. [inaudible 00:02:54] is a $6,000 check, a $4,000-something, $19,000, $12,000. So that week was $98,000 coming into your bank?

Josh: Yeah, that was a good week.

Matt: In a week.

Josh: Yeah. This was awesome, and this is what made me want to do whole-selling but then I realized I’m always going to be doing this. Now, I didn’t get any checks like that in December. I got 17 checks ranging between $2,5000 and $5,000. That doesn’t sound like a lot of money, but for the next 12 years, because that’s usually how I weigh these options, I’m guaranteed minimum of 300 a month and times 17, you know?

Matt: What were you doing just before we met and what caused you to come?

Josh: I’ve worked for Chevron. I’ve been doing that 10 years as an engineer, and I realized doing the whole pension and working 30 years isn’t for me. I really need to create wealth. End of 2016, I started doing it by myself and like Matt said, I was doing one to two bills. I realized if you want to do it quickly, you need a coach. So I came to the intensive to basically say, “Okay, I’m doing one to two. How do I get that to one or two a week?”

Matt: What did you see that you decided that boom, this is it, this is what I need?

Josh: Well, you were doing it. You’re successful. I needed to find somebody who already has what I want and copy everything they’re doing. So, that’s what it was. There’s no secrets, you kind of just follow the formula. I just tried to … If it worked, I did more of it. I just quit my job. Woo-hoo. Yeah. So, up until December 31st, I had to hire everything for everybody because I have two kids and a wife and my full-time job. I literally had no time to do my real estate business. I just hired somebody to do each task.

Matt: [inaudible 00:05:05] there’s what we used to call the Epic marketing check list, right? What he’s saying is he just took the check list, gave it to somebody and said, “Do that for me.”

Josh: Yeah.

Matt: Right.

Josh: And there’s training videos on how to do each one of those steps-

Matt: Right.

Josh: So he watched it. He knows how to do that now, and I don’t.

Matt: Perfect. They do and you don’t. I love it. You just collect the checks. So, how has this impacted your life?

Josh: I always knew I wanted to be an entrepreneur. I always knew that I was going to be successful, but now I can almost touch it. It’s right there, so it’s an awesome feeling knowing I no longer have to work a corporate job and work for somebody else. I’m now doing it for myself.

Matt: Cool. Let’s give Josh a hand.

So that was Josh at the last intensive, and I’ve got Parker, Greg and Russel at this intensive. They’re talking to people today and they’re sharing their story. Next intensive that we have in Boston on October 18th, 19th and 20th, we’re going to have somebody else. These case studies are becoming more and more frequent, the way we’ve been able to help people lay out their plan and give them the access to that plan, the resources and all the support they need to make it happen, the case studies are really starting to pick up pace. We’re getting so many more of them.

If you’d like to attend the next Epic intensive, go right now to and you can grab a free seat there. The first 25 are free. We always do the first 25 are free. We’d love to see you in Boston October 18th, 19th and 20th. If you happen to be watching this video far out in the future, you feel like that date has passed you, still go to because we do this regularly. We’ll see where the next location is, depending on when you actually come across this video.

All righty, I’ll see you next week on another episode of Financial Freedom Friday.

Matt Theriault

Real estate investor and educator.