Welcome to the Epic Wealth podcast – the revolutionary new money show disguised as a real estate show. Join Matt Theriault as he shifts investor mindsets from making piles of cash to making streams of cash flow – teaching people how to build Epic Wealth through passive income real estate investing.
Real estate is the final frontier where the average person has a legitimate shot at creating Epic Wealth. Learn how to build a passive income portfolio and implement residual systems that will free you from the rat race. Discover the path to financial freedom and set yourself up for the retirement of your dreams through cash flow real estate investments.
It’s all here on the Epic Wealth podcast – real estate investing for busy people.
What You’ll Learn:
- Why shifting your focus from piles for cash to streams of cash is so important
- How a focus on residual streams will improve your prospects for long term wealth
- How real estate produces income in multiple ways
- Why implementing cash flow systems will free your time
- Which real estate investment strategies are beneficial to you
- How math makes the mindset when aiming for monthly earning goals
- Why financial freedom will not be achieved through savings and accumulation
- Why real estate is the easiest and surest way toward creating Epic Wealth
- Why saving money is slow and should be considered a wealth trap
- Other significant wealth traps to avoid on your path to financial freedom
Read the Transcript:
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This is Theriault Media. It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that. Just. Ain't. So. You don't have a money problem. You have an idea problem. Welcome to the final frontier where the average person has a legitimate shot at creating Epic Wealth. Your host, Matt Theriault.
Matt Theriault: Hello, and welcome to the Creating Epic Wealth Show, the revolutionary new money show disguised as a real estate show. As real estate, it's the final frontier where the average person has a legitimate shot at creating epic wealth. I mean, you really just don't have a chance at any sort of financial freedom unless you incorporate real estate into your financial plan, and if you just don't have the time to do it, or maybe the desire to take on all that heavy lifting, then this is the show for you. This is real estate investing for busy people.
My name is Matt Theriault, real estate investor and fund manager. Nice to meet you. A bit about me: when I got out of the Marine Corps a while back, I spent the next 15 years of my life or so in the music business at a very small independent hip-hop record label with major label distribution, and I did pretty well for myself until the digital download turned that entire industry upside-down and, really, in six short months, I found myself bankrupt, divorced, and bagging groceries for $7 an hour. I had no plan B.
But, I knew whatever my next venture would be, that plan B is going to have to be lucrative. Because after going from 7-figure lifestyle to a $7 an hour job, all I wanted was my money back. I wanted my life back, and after about six months of soul searching, the answer came to me from the most unlikely source. It came from the grocery store manager who, coincidentally, the same age as I, and he showed me what he was up to in life, and he was just a few years away from retiring from the grocery store. He had started working when he was a teenager, and along the way, he had managed to acquire a half dozen apartment buildings churning off a passive income that exceeded his monthly pay from the grocery store. His investments were making more each and every month than he was going to work for.
Long story short, what that did is -- I mean, just an entirely new world opened up to me through that conversation. I mean, at that very moment, it was just like my world was never the same. It was very much like the Matrix. You know, the movie, the Matrix. The hero of the story, Neo. He's given a choice by his mentor, Morpheus, between two pills. You got the blue pill and you got the red pill. Now, the blue pill, that's going to allow him to go back to his normal, boring, unchallenging, regular life. The red pill, that's going to result in Neo learning some hard truths about reality, but ultimately, help him reach his full potential and live a more fulfilling life.
So, I'm about to give you a similar choice. So, choose wisely. And if you do, your life will never be the same. I want to help you create a new road map that's going to actually serve your dreams, that's going to make those dreams a reality. This road map, it can get you from false security to freedom much quicker than how you're probably going about it. If you want to escape the drudgery of the rat race forever, there's a choice that you're going to have to make, and that choice is to shift your focus from saving piles of cash to creating streams of cash. If you can make that choice just one time and follow through on it, financial freedom will soon be yours.
Now, here's what I mean. The irony of it all -- I mean, the irony here, it's astonishing. You see, the core concept of saving for retirement is to accumulate enough money so that it pays you enough of a residual income from the interest so that you can live the rest of your life without having to work. That promise, it motivates us to work and save, work and save, then work and save some more for 40, 50 years. That's a 40 to 50 year plan. Then, one day, we hope we end with that huge pile of cash that's going to generate the substantial cash flow that's going to do the trick. It's all about the number of dollars saved to generate the monthly number of dollars that we need per month.
You know, the financial giant, ING, for example, they promote their services with that famous slogan: "What's Your Number?" What is that number that you need to retire? That's a good slogan. I love that slogan. But, we've been looking at the wrong number, the wrong side of the equation. We've been focused on the number of dollars in the bank, or the fund, or the 401(k), how much we've saved. Of course, the financial power is to promote this strategy. Of course they do this. It's a winner for them. They make a ton of money off your money. The more money they have of yours, the more money that they make.
Now, that's the important number to them. That's why they promote that number: how much you save. The important number to you, though, is the cash flow you receive every month without having to trade your time for it. The cash flow you receive from that number. We make a mad scramble to have all this money piled up, but what we really want is the cash flow that it's going to generate. So, instead of focusing on the pile, like the $1.2 million that analysts that we need to retire comfortably, how about focusing on the $4,000 of residual income that that big pile of money is supposed to generate. Not that $4,000 a month is comfortable, but that's what that would generate. $1.2 million would generate, in today's climate, $4,000 a month, approximately.
So, instead of focusing on the 1.2, let's focus on the 4,000. Forget about the saving of 1.2 million. Forget about that number. It doesn't matter. And you're highly unlikely to ever accumulate it in your life, anyway. Did you get that? I mean, it should click just like that. Did you see that? That shift, it creates a whole new realm of possibilities. I mean, which sounds easier to you? Saving in the realm of $1 million, or creating the $4,000 of monthly residual income? Given that almost nobody ever stashes away nearly as much as a million dollars for retirement, the $4,000 starts to look like the viable alternative.
Okay, so if you're still uncertain about this, trust me. Follow me. It is. In fact, the average person, with the right mindset and just a little bit of know-how, can realistically create $4,000 of monthly residual income in four years or less. Think about that. 99% of the population isn't achieving that much cash flow in 40 years of saving money. I'm saying that you can do it in a tenth of the time with this shift in mindset, and it's going to be more secure at that, and you're going to be in control.
So, if it’s that much easier, if it was that much better, why don't more people do it? Well, there can only be three reasons. Either they've never heard of such a concept, they never thought about it, so they just don't know about it, or they have heard of the concept, but they don't know how to actually do it, or they just don't believe it will work. Well, I'm here to let you in on the secret and show you exactly how to do it. If you don't believe me, I don't care. I'm going to prove it to you though.
The difference between piles of cash and streams of cash, it's profound. You'll likely not be able to make any more progress until this concept is indelibly etched into your brain. Once you have a real grasp on this concept and start applying it for yourself, you're going to begin a swift journey down that path to financial freedom. This path is going to open up a whole new way of thinking, a whole new way of living, instead of the drudgery of exchanging time for money. I mean, people who buy it at this concept wake up every day with a focus on creating systems that will make money work for them, and then once their residual income exceed their expenses, the accumulation of assets and the creation of wealth are essentially automatic. Then your time is yours and you can go to work, or you can go fishing.
Now, because it is the best vehicle, I'm going to use real estate to further demonstrate the power of cash flow versus the power of cash, okay? One of the many advantages of real estate is that it can produce income in basically two very powerful ways. Real estate can produce large amounts of cash through short-term strategies like fix and flip and wholesaling, and it can also produce smaller amounts of monthly cash flow through long-term strategies like buy and hold and lease options.
For someone with a saver's mindset, a $30,000 cash profit, say, from a fix and flip deal, that's always going to be preferred over a buy and hold deal that cash flows just $300 per month. I mean, someone can be thoroughly committed to the idea of earning residual income, but most people are so ingrained with the saver's mindset that they just can't resist the big cash payouts that real estate offers.
I mean, if I offered you right now -- let's just imagine I'm sitting there next to you and I offered you $30,000 of cash, a pile of $30,000, or I gave you $300 per month of cash flow, which one would you choose? Would you take the $30,000 of cash, or the $300 of monthly cash flow? You know, society's accumulator training tragically leads wealth seekers to dismiss the value of the cash flow, thinking that they could just go do another deal and add to their pile of cash. They're going to continue to exchange their time for money, always looking for that next big payday.
But, you can't blame them. I mean, $30,000, that feels like you're progressing. That feels like you're profiting and you're moving forward. Taking the $300 is counterintuitive, isn't it? It doesn't seem to make sense on the surface, and this is a really good example that demonstrates why so few people become financially free. Because, when you have the real world scenario of which one are you going to choose? Left hand that got $30,000, right hand that got $300 of cash flow, most people take that $30,000. They think it's the right thing to do. But, the fastest path to freedom is the path that chooses the $300 of cash flow, and I'm going to demonstrate why right after this.
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And now back to creating your Epic Wealth.
Matt: Yes, we're back. So, currently, a financial giant, ING, and I'm not picking on them, by the way. I'm actually applauding them. Because, what they're doing right now is they're advertising approximately a 1% interest rate on their money market account, and the reason I'm applauding that 1% is because it's just about the most generous savings account available today to the average consumer. Now, the money invested there, it's safe, it's secure, and it's insured by the U.S. Government as well.
So, let me ask you. To create that $300 of monthly cash flow we were talking about earlier, how much would you have to save in that ING account to create $300 of cash flow? You'd need to have $360,000 in that account. That's right. You need to have more than the large majority of people are able to save in a lifetime in that account just to achieve a monthly sum that is probably not even enough to buy a month's worth of groceries. You see, $300 of cash is worth $300 of cash, right? $300 of cash flow, however, is worth more than $360,000 of cash sitting in the most generous savings account available at the moment. That's the difference. Even if they make great money, the saver, the one with the saver mindset, they'd have to make that $30,000 on that fix and flip, they'd have to do that fix and flip 10 times over to safely earn enough to create the cash flow in that ING account than if they had just chosen the buy and hold deal, that one buy and hold deal for $300 of monthly cash flow.
Now, you might be thinking that, "$300, that sounds great, but it's not going to pay the bills, Matt, right?" That amount is probably not going to make any great lifestyle changes available to you. It's not going to impact your life, really, in any significant way. But, that being the case, what amount would? What would impact your life? Would $5,000 a month do it? Or, maybe closer to $10,000. Let's go with $10,000 and let's just do the math. Do the math there and you realize that you're going to need to accumulate $12 million of cash in that ING account to create $10,000 a month of cash flow. $12 million of cash. Now, that is a pile of cash.
Now, given that $12 million is probably not even a possibility for you, can you see that the $10,000 of cash flow is probably going to be a much easier road to travel? It's going to be much easier to generate to create that stream of cash. You're like, "Well, wait a minute? What do you mean $12 million is not a possibility for me?" Well, here's what I mean. If you got started right now and you stashed away an extra $20,000 a year. So, whatever you're earning a year, just subtract 20,000 from that, and you're going to put that away. How long would that take you to get to 12 million bucks? It'd take you 600 years to do.
So, maybe you're fortunate. You've got a great job, you have a great income, and you can afford to pile up $20,000 a month. Even then, it would take you 50 years to have enough. You'd likely be too old and worn out to enjoy your financial freedom anyway. But, hey, "What's your number?" right? Here's the deal. You aren't going to get to financial freedom if you keep traveling down the savings and accumulation path. But, generating $10,000 of monthly residual income, now that right there, that is possible. If you change your mindset, decide on freedom, and then take the actions that are correlated to that mindset, it's not only possible, I got good news for you. It's probable.
Now, when it comes to generating cash flow, income, or residual income, passive income, there are actually many different ways to do that. Maybe you can write a book or produce music that's going to result in royalties, or you could own any number of businesses from storage facilities to parking lots, vending machines, Laundromats, a franchise, or maybe even get involved in the right network marketing company. I mean, I hope that you choose several paths to passive income. The point is that passive income is a must. That monthly number needs to become your focus. The monthly income number needs to be your focus, not that number that you need to save.
When it comes to cash flow, of all the ideas that I just shared with you and all the ideas that I've explored, of all the ideas to produce cash flow, the one that I know of that's the absolute most surest is real estate. And that's why I say at the top of the show, this is a money show disguised as a real estate show, because if you want to generate cash flow, you want to generate financial freedom. Real estate, that's the easiest and most surest path to get there, and there's multiple reasons and we're going to go over all of those during this show.
What you got to do is you just got to shift your focus from saving piles of money to creating streams of money. Make that one choice just one time and you've multiplied your journey to financial freedom by 10. Now, there's some traps out there. You're going to have to avoid these traps or else it's not going to be such a short streamlined path. You've got to avoid these traps, and there are five of them, specifically. Five significant traps, and I'm going to share those with you.
But, let's recap real quick. We discussed your number, right? The masses focus on the number that's in their bank account, but as we proved, the faster path to financial freedom is by focusing on the number you received each month that doesn't come directly from your efforts. We call that passive income, cash flow, residual income. We're going to use all of those terms here interchangeably, but that's the number you want to focus on, the monthly residual income number, and by saving your money as a means to create that monthly residual income number, that's the long way to go about. Ten times longer than if you were to focus on creating the monthly residual number itself.
So, that's what's wrong with saving money. It just takes too long before you have the ability to do what you want with your life. Now, I'm not saying don't have some money in reserves. I'm not saying just be cash broke and just living on the residual income. No. You should have a safety net, so to speak. But, saving money should not be your wealth building strategy. Saving money is very slow, and most people are too darn old to enjoy what they save by the time they have saved enough.
Now, other than saving money being the slow way to building wealth, it's also one of the traps. It is the first trap we're going to talk about. It's a huge wealth building trap, and here's what I mean. What would happen if you decided you were going to become a medical doctor, but you were going to only use the medical technology from the 1950s. I mean, it was good enough for them, right? So, why change? There are some things that stay the same, some things that are different. The medical practices in technology of 60 years ago, face it, it simply just wouldn't cut it in our present world. Certainly, some things remain consistent, but we've learned and we've gained much. Things have changed financially as well, but most people remain fixed on financial advice that made perfect sense in 1950. Today, not so much. Things have changed, and perhaps not for the better.
It's time to update our financial thinking. I'm going to share with you some ideas on how to do that as we dive into some ideas that are commonly held as sound financial advice, but in fact, they are traps. Traps in the most literal sense of the word disguised as wisdom, the type of wisdom we've been hearing our entire lives. We've been hearing it from our parents, we've been hearing it from our teachers, our mentors, our financial advisors, from our favorite radio and TV personalities, from the multitude of media that floods our society today. Wisdom that has become so ingrained in our psyche that we don't dare question it, for it's accepted as absolute truth.
These traps are slowing your journey to financial freedom, if not blocking the road altogether, like a 10-car pileup on the 405 at rush hour. They're virtually unavoidable unless you know what they are. If you know what they are, very easy to sidestep, like Todd Gurley, dodging the defensive line, linebackers, and safeties all the way to the end zone, and I'm going to shed some light on that for you, a bright light, right after this.
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Matt: That's it for today. We'll pick up from where we left off right here next week. See you then.
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